APA Presidential Candidates Speak to SIOPs Concerns
Ann Marie Ryan
As was done last year by Bill Macey, I wrote to each of APAs
five Presidential Candidates asking them to answer three questions. The
questions were developed specifically regarding issues that related to APA and
I-Os relationship with the broader field of psychology. I noted in my letter
to the candidates that SIOP will not endorse or recommend any candidate to the
membership. However, I hope the responses to questions related to concerns of a
large segment of the membership enable individual SIOP members to make informed
choices.
Four of the candidates graciously responded to my request. Here are the
questions and their responses, presented verbatim.
Question 1
A recent survey of SIOP members indicates that most are opposed to the
licensure of I-O psychologists. At the same time, many of our members live in
states where they are required to be licensed and are finding it increasingly
difficult to meet requirements. For example, California requires course work in
child abuse, something not part of I-O practice. Additionally, nine states do
not permit I-O psychologists to be licensed. What is your position on licensure
and licensure requirements for I-O psychologists?
Laura Barbanel:
The issue of licensure for SIOP members is a complicated one with a
long history. Historically, SIOP members have not wished to be licensed, not
seeing themselves as providing health care. Today, however, many SIOP members do
wish to be licensed, understanding that licensure is what defines the
psychologist as a professional psychologist. Herein lies the dilemma. Licensure
as defined in state statute requires an internship and an additional year of
experience, which is not available to I-O psychologists. Some other kind of
supervised experience as defined by the I-O field needs to be delineated for the
I-O psychologist. Creating the process by which this could happen would be a
long and arduous task, involving APA, the I-O experts, state and provincial
psychology boards, and state legislatures. But it does need to be done. It is a
task that needs to get started to help advance the professional status of
I-O psychologists. Those who do not wish to be licensed could still have the
option of not being licensed where that is indeed an option in their state.
James Bray:
As a member of the Board of Educational Affairs and APA Council, I
strongly supported the I-O training guidelines developed by SIOP. I was very
impressed with the quality of the guidelines. I believe that we need to
incorporate the relevant I-O training guidelines into our APA model. The
proposed psychology training and licensure model developed as part of Norine
Johnsons presidency is an admirable step toward resolving some of the very
difficult issues faced primarily by clinical/counseling psychologists. I have
raised a number of concerns within the APA Council of Representatives with the
current proposal because it does not adequately allow for the diversity of
psychologists, especially for I-O and consulting psychologists. Licensure is for
the regulation and protection of the profession and the clients who we serve. I
believe that our licensure laws should be crafted to accomplish these goals.
Thus, I support the rights of states to determine the appropriate regulation but
to make sure that it does not exclude areas such as I-O psychology. I also
support the rights of states and psychologists to choose to exclude certain
areas of psychology from licensure. APA and SIOP can help by developing model
licensing laws that include the needs of I-O psychologists.
Diane Halpern:
Licensure is a way of providing the public with the assurance that the
professionals they hire have the knowledge, skills, and abilities (KSAs) needed
to perform their job. Professional licensure is often necessary because there
are few individual consumers who would know how to determine if any
professional, including a psychologist, who is listed in a directory had
appropriate education and training or has numerous violations of ethical
standards. Professionals and others who work in academic settings are not
required, and in some states not permitted, to attain a license because they are
hired by other professionals who can make meaningful judgments about the
education and training of the person they are hiring. The difficulty in
determining the need for licensure for I-O psychologists is created by the many
different types of work performed by I-O psychologists. An I-O psychologist who
works for the military or consults with large corporations does not need to be
licensed because there is no individual consumer who needs an external assurance
that this person is competent. When I-O psychologists offer executive coaching
to a middle manager who wants to learn how to move up in an organization, the
situation is similar to a consumer who is looking for a qualified
psychotherapist to help with his marriage problems. Licensing is a good idea
when consumers cannot determine for themselves if the professional they are
hiring is competent.
I-O psychologists do not offer services for child abuse, so requiring that
they have course work in this specialized (and sensitive) area does not make
sense. The licensing requirements need to be meaningfully related to the work
for which the license is required. APA and Division 14 members can work together
to determine defensible licensing requirements and coordinate lobbying at the
state level that will bring licensing requirements in line with the work
analysis. APA can help with state-by-state lobbying strategies because licensing
boards can be aversive to any change and slow to act even when they understand
the need for change. Some states have strong state psychological associations
already in place that can help with reforms in licensing laws. As APA president,
I would play a key role in coordinating across states and across the diverse
range of psychologists within each state so that the variety of psychologists
can support each other.
Kathleen M. McNamara:
Having attended APA meetings where I-O psychology has been
represented (most recently the Commission on Education and Training Leading to
Licensure), and having heard debate over the years among members of APA Council,
I am very aware that licensure is not a new concern. If there were a clear
answer, SIOP would not be posing this question to candidates for the presidency.
I do not have a position on this question. Rather, I think it is a very
complex issue that is more relevant than ever as the culture of business,
industry, and corporations changes around us and as more accountability is
demanded. More than ever, I-O psychologists need to be at the forefront, with
their domain of expertise clearly understood and recognized by the
industrial-organizational world and by their own discipline. At the same time, a
vulnerable public must be assured that no harm will come from the activities of
I-O psychologists.
Although it would be ideal for I-O psychologists, themselves, to determine if
the nature of what an I-O psychologist does is something that causes a need for
protection from harm, we are all too aware that it is not the nature of
government to be ideal, nor is it the nature of APA governance! Reviewing the
literature in I-O psychology and SIOPs own TIP, academic and
practitioner cultures are very evident. Within the I-O practitioner arena,
the functions that overlap with traditionally licensed practice (e.g.
individual assessment) and those which do not fit into this traditional
definition (e.g., team effectiveness, decision making within organizations) can
be identified. Thus, the likelihood is slim that licensure for I-O psychology
will be completely eliminated. The need for leadership within the field to
circumscribe that which reasonably falls in the purview of licensing versus
ethics and the fields own guidelines is essential.
I believe that, to the extent I-O psychology can articulate its domain and
assign values to the functions of its own practitioners to address the potential
for harm, the president and other APA leadership can work in concert with SIOP
to bring about a balanced discussion in Council, achieve agreement within the
discipline on a reasonable standard for protection of the public (whether
through licensure or another mechanism proposed by the field), and develop a
strategy to address licensure requirements that appear unreasonable.
Question 2
We have witnessed a spate of articles advising clinical psychologists to
enter the workplace as a new practice domain. Many of our members are
concerned about individuals who are approaching new practice areas without
appropriate training/retooling (e.g., personal assessment, executive coaching,
team interventions). What if any types of additional training should
psychologists trained in traditional psychology programs receive before
practicing in workplace settings in nonclinical areas?
Laura Barbanel:
No psychologist should work out of his or her area of expertise. If
psychologists trained in one area of psychology wish to retrain to work in
another area, they need to fulfill the training requirements of the substantive
area. That would apply to clinical psychologists wishing to work in the schools
or industry and I-O psychologists working in the clinic.
The specifics of the retraining are worked out in some substantive areas and
need to be worked out in I-O as well.
James Bray:
Psychologists should only practice within their scope of training and
licensure. There is some overlap among the various specialty areas of psychology
and cross-fertilization among areas can only serve to strengthen our profession.
SIOP has properly pointed out that it is important to not only learn a
particular technique or assessment method, but to also have the training on how
and when to apply it in particular context. As president, I would highlight the
need for appropriate training for practice in this area and support SIOPs
efforts to insure appropriate training. I am also concerned about other
professionals branching out into I-O psychologys areas (e.g., small- business
consulting and evaluation) and would ask APA to raise concerns about these types
of activities to protect our profession.
Diane Halpern:
This question is closely related to the earlier one. Both questions
address the broad topic of appropriate scope of practice. There are also touchy
turf issues involved in these questions. The underlying question can be
rephrased more simply: Is executive coaching so dissimilar to individual
therapy or counseling that different types of education and training are needed
for each? and, alternatively and by extension, Is team intervention so
similar to group therapy that a common set of education and training experiences
is sufficient? These are likely to be contentious and continuing issues among
psychologists. This is the type of issue that requires a good president to be a
good listener who can bring different groups together to tease apart the
similarities and differences. It may be that some types of group interventions
(e.g., assertiveness training) do not require specialized education and
training; whereas other types of group interventions (e.g., changing
organizational structures) do. I hope that Division 14 members were not
expecting a simple answer to this difficult question because a simple answer
would be simply wrong. It is better to ask what sorts of situations and
interventions require specialized education and training and to support
conclusions with examples and strong reasons, a process that will take time and
cooperative effort. This is another area where good leadership in APA can make a
difference.
Kathleen M. McNamara:
Those trained in traditional clinical psychology programs typically
receive no coursework or seminars that address even the general knowledge base
related to organizations, corporations, business, or industry. As many new
practitioners will affirm, they do not even receive training in the
business of practice! Once one gets beyond the general definitions in
these areas, the myriad of concepts that are associated with the culture
of the workplace, management, and labor relations are to be considerednot
necessarily in depth, but at least to the degree that the individuals know what
they do not know, and do no harm! More finely tuned (and along a similar
dimension as far as depth) would be the areas of personnel and human resources
(including EEO, affirmative action, diversity training), performance appraisals,
core competency models, leadership, and various aspects of selection, promotion,
and development of employeesnot that the consultant doing something
like executive coaching must be an expert in human resource management but that
person must know the context within which those they are coaching exist.
Depending on the niche into which the clinician intends to fit, other
training could be appropriateteams (not groups!), decision making (not
problem solving), executive dynamics and development (not just coping with the
glass ceiling)and so forth.
Because I am not an I-O psychologist, and have not considered consulting in
the workplace, I am sure that I have only scratched the surface of the training
that would allow clinicians to competently practice in nonclinical areas of the
workplace. I feel strongly that psychologists should not function outside of
their areas of expertise. As your president has encouraged the SIOP membership,
I also encourage you; participate at gatherings of those who would think
themselves capable of functioning in your domain. Educate them, not with
crash courses focused on how to but with serious dialogues that
convey the depth of what you do.
Consistent with the theme for my presidential initiative to demonstrate the
value of psychologists in public service settings to the profession as a whole,
I would invite I-O psychologists to showcase what they have done either working
in or consulting with public service settings (e.g. federal, state, county
agencies). These large systems can certainly serve as a basis for demonstrating
the best practices of psychologists working with organizations and can
provide case examples of the need for competencies and skills beyond that
provided in the traditional clinical psychology program.
Question 3
Our recent member survey indicates concern, particularly among our
academic members, regarding the status of I-O psychology in the field of
psychology and in psychology departments. For example, introductory textbooks
provide little more than passing reference to our field, major departments treat
applied fields as second-class, and so forth. If elected, what will you do to
assist SIOP in promoting I-O psychology to other psychologists?
Laura Barbanel:
The promotion of I-O psychology to other psychologists has to be a
collaborative effort of SIOP and APA. SIOP has as one of its missions the
promoting of I-O psychology to other areas of psychology. This can be done
through presentations at the APA convention, symposia and CE workshops as well
as other participation in the life of the profession, most notably through APA.
Yet it is sometimes difficult to get full participation from SIOP members, both
as presenters and participants. There is an interaction here between the lack of
recognition of I-O psychology by other areas of psychology and the disaffection
of SIOP members. If, however, SIOP members do not seek to educate the other
members of the profession, how will the other areas of psychology know more
about I-O? The vicious cycle will continue. Some joint effort between SIOP and
APA has to be developed. A planning group of SIOP and other members of APA needs
to be developed to work out a plan to do this. I would hope to be able to make
this happen.
James Bray:
I believe that I-O psychology represents a very important but
underutilized specialty in psychology. As president, I can and will effectively
represent the multiple points of view within APA and foster an ongoing
collaborative approach for the organization. Throughout my life I have made
associations and friends with a broad spectrum of psychologists and people who
represent interests in I-O psychology, business, and other areas. I believe our
profession is stronger because of these multiple viewpoints.
I-O psychologists can contribute their expertise to the demands of healthcare
systems for evaluation and documentation of effectiveness interventions and
programs. One of my areas of scholarship is applied methodology (Bray &
Maxwell, Multivariate Analysis of Variance, Sage). As a result I know
that I-O psychologists have the training, experience, and methodologies to help
clinically oriented psychologists improve their evaluation skills and
methodologies. I strongly encourage I-O psychologists to become more involved in
these areas. I also have a personal interest in aviation. As president, I will
encourage stronger links and initiatives with the aviation industry, Federal
Aviation Administration, and NASA to use the expertise of psychologists,
especially I-O psychologists.
With the retirement of Ray Fowler, APA will soon transition to a new
executive leader. I believe that it is important that APA use the expertise of
I-O psychologists to help with this transition to make APA a more effective
organization. I will also encourage I-O psychologists to be more involved in
organizational development and human resource management within the
organization. As president, I will have several groups of advisors from I-O and
other areas to insure that our diversity is represented in APA policies.
For more information about my candidacy, please visit my Web page: http://www.bcm.tmc.edu/familymed/jbray.
Thank you for the honor of being nominated to serve as your president and for
your support and vote.
Diane Halpern:
Good strategies to bring I-O psychology into the mainstream curriculum
include creating complete teaching modules that are easy for instructors with
limited knowledge of I-O psychology to incorporate into core courses and
enlisting I-O faculty to teach in other areas of the curriculum. The
availability of teaching materials, along with strategies for instruction and a
complete set of reading and learning activities, is especially important because
this information could fit in numerous places in the undergraduate
curriculumbusiness schools, sociology, introduction to psychology courses,
labor economics, and family studies, to name a few. Easily usable modules that
do not require an entire course or curricular restructuring are more likely to
be effective and to reach a broader audience than other, more ambitious attempts
to include these materials in the curriculum. I believe that the development of
separate and ready-to-use teaching modules is an innovative approach to
the dissemination of the information. SIOP has already begun an excellent
database of teaching materials, but there are few outside of SIOP who know that
it exists. Periodic reminders and updates when exercises or topics are added
will help with the integration. It would also be helpful to send suggested
materials to authors of top-selling texts along with reasons why the material
should be included in the authors text. In my current position as director of
the Berger Institute for Work, Family, and Children, I have begun a similar
project that is designed to introduce issues in worklife balance into the
undergraduate curriculum.
I-O psychology can be promoted to other psychologists by actively reaching
out via a speaker who works as an I-O psychologist in an applied setting, asking
others to join in a debate regarding real controversies (e.g., issues in
personnel assessment or compensation fairness), and bringing interesting data
into classes in statistics, ethics, psychology and the law, and experimental
laboratories. I also suggest the development of career and academic advising
materials for students so that they understand the practical advantages of I-O
courses, including the broad range of career options, some of which are more
financially rewarding than those available for other psychologists. There are
great colleagues in divisions concerned with teaching and education who would
love to help with this project.
Thank you for considering my candidacy. If you have questions or ideas for
me, please contact me at Diane.Halpern@ClaremontMcKenna.edu
or on the Web at http://berger.claremontmckenna.edu.
Kathleen M. McNamara:
SIOP leadership already have proposed strategies for marketing the
field to others, including other psychologists. These strategies are based on
membership participation, and to whatever degree, using the visibility of the
APA president (e.g. personal invitations to specific members, presidential
citations, highlighting the field in the presidents column in The Monitor,
etc.) would facilitate more involvement by members. As president I would be
prepared to take those steps.
As I mentioned in my response to one of the previous questions, consistent
with my presidential initiative to focus on the role of psychologists in public
service in promoting the association-wide agenda, the work of I-O psychologists
in or with public service settings can be featured as well.
Although there may be little mention in introductory textbooks about I-O
psychology, a focus at an earlier stage may be helpful in creating a future
demand to which psychology departments will need to respond. If SIOP is not
already working with TOPSS (Teachers of Psychology in Secondary Schools), a
partnership with this dedicated and creative group of leaders, developing
curriculum modules for high school psychology classes, can add another dimension
to the marketing of I-O psychology.
I have indicated in my response to the questions presented to the
presidential candidates for publication in The Monitor that I would
include among my highest priorities for a science agenda, areas already
determined by the scientific community as a good fit for the Decade of Behavior.
Beyond those initiatives, among my priorities would be those areas that address
the pressing needs of society, and those that expand the knowledge base by not
only including as research subjects a much more diverse population, but also by
designing research to specifically address the unique differences of individual
diverse populations. I believe that I-O psychology can make significant
contributions in these areas, and these contributions can lead to visibility for
the field and promotion of the field within psychology. I would encourage SIOP
members also to consider a special package of journal articles to be
submitted for publication in Professional Psychology Research and Practice,
where not only would I-O psychology be spotlighted for other psychologists, but
press releases could be issued to bring the I-O findings to the attention of the
general public.
As president, I would be willing to meet with SIOP leadership to discuss
additional ideas that may be proposed and how I might be able to facilitate
accomplishing the objectives of the Society.
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